New Rules for 2016

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As far as those of us putting guys on their MLB roster that haven't been up yet, I am doing it until spring training because I think they might make the team due to depth at position. Things change daily in baseball. I believe we let things shake out between now and opening day and see where it goes.

[Chicago White Sox]

Nov 13, 2015 23:01:20 GMT @brittdawg said:

As far as those of us putting guys on their MLB roster that haven't been up yet, I am doing it until spring training because I think they might make the team due to depth at position. Things change daily in baseball. I believe we let things shake out between now and opening day and see where it goes.

I totally understand why people are doing it currently but it needs to be addressed now so all managers have enough notice on who can and cannot be on rosters and what the limits are come opening day.. Better to have something definite right now then wait until January or February. 

[Arizona Diamondbacks]

There is nothing to address , fill ur roster how u want , as long as u r paying a salary on the player on ur roster that meets the requirements , there shouldn't be any further discussion on the matter ,

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I found it to be "definite" when the original posting took place back in the second week of OCT and then updated the next day.
From what I just read under this thread, Roster #1 reference it says, "... must have at least 12 offensive players on the active MLML."
Pretty simple to understand.

[Chicago White Sox]

Nov 13, 2015 23:57:59 GMT Arizona Diamondbacks said:

There is nothing to address , fill ur roster how u want , as long as u r paying a salary on the player on ur roster that meets the requirements , there shouldn't be any further discussion on the matter ,

Ok cool, we will just have teams with 1/3rd of their roster with prospects who aren't even playing in the MLB. Sounds realistic enough. 

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It's called fantasy baseball for several reasons.

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WAS please understand where everyone is coming from. Some people are trying to position themselves for winning in the future, like the Cubs and KC in real life did. And you would hate to be told how to run your team. Please allow teams to do what they want. Some people have stretched themselves to the max, like I had with crappy contracts and now I have no choice but to get rid of those contracts and load up on prospects to hope for my future. Others had done that from the beginning and we all come to them for money and selling our picks, let's just try not to control more than our own teams. Or we can just go back to regular fantasy baseball which is extremely boring! Thanks and I hope people take time to read and understand what I was trying to convey.

[Chicago White Sox]

Nov 14, 2015 0:58:40 GMT @brittdawg said:

WAS please understand where everyone is coming from. Some people are trying to position themselves for winning in the future, like the Cubs and KC in real life did. And you would hate to be told how to run your team. Please allow teams to do what they want. Some people have stretched themselves to the max, like I had with crappy contracts and now I have no choice but to get rid of those contracts and load up on prospects to hope for my future. Others had done that from the beginning and we all come to them for money and selling our picks, let's just try not to control more than our own teams. Or we can just go back to regular fantasy baseball which is extremely boring! Thanks and I hope people take time to read and understand what I was trying to convey.

That is not what I am trying to do at all. 

Quick question; what was the initial reason to put the 12 offensive player rule?

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I was not apart of the group who decided on that, so I don't know. But I do know that they had discussed using different methods and this was what they decided. Again, my opinion is we let managers run their team the way they want. At one point last year I only had 21 players and almost no money left. Some of us don't have a choice and some have decided to stash their eggs in the future basket and crush people in the next 2 years or so. Why can't we all just let Hannes and Bryan determine before opening day how rosters look and allow them to approach teams individually with requests to alter their lineups. I trust Hannes and Bryan to do the right thing and the rest of us to listen.

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At this point , we are too far into a season to change it. Too many people have made trades that would make it impossible to change it now. But we can discuss a change for next year involving having every team having all 10 roster spots filled with MLB talent(active). But at this point, we can stay the course and work it out during the year.

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We also have league rules for teams purposely "tanking" the season and not competing. We have made mistakes along the way and we try to correct them the best we can. Every team last season tried to compete each week. The last place teams had quite a few close matchups. We are quite a ways to the beginning of the season and teams will make their needed adjustments with the auction next month and more trading.

I see both sides of the story. We are here to have fun and not control each team and tell teams what they can and can't do. But we also have to make it fair and competitive. And that's why we have rules. I understand that you are paying salary of the MiLB players. I also understand the other side of a team having a bunch of prospects on the MLB roster.

I think we should look into needing 10 offensive active MLB players on a team. This would include DL spots cause of injuries through the season and the lack of free agency depth and salary constraints teams have. The rules now have it we must pay the salaries of 12 offensive players.

We also could do a very easy and obtainable 100 at bat minimum per week. Yahoo does not let us do that but on Sunday night we could check the 10 matchups very easily and if a team is below we edit the scoring and give zero's in all offensive categories.

[Chicago White Sox]

Nov 14, 2015 1:08:54 GMT @brittdawg said:

I was not apart of the group who decided on that, so I don't know. But I do know that they had discussed using different methods and this was what they decided. Again, my opinion is we let managers run their team the way they want. At one point last year I only had 21 players and almost no money left. Some of us don't have a choice and some have decided to stash their eggs in the future basket and crush people in the next 2 years or so. Why can't we all just let Hannes and Bryan determine before opening day how rosters look and allow them to approach teams individually with requests to alter their lineups. I trust Hannes and Bryan to do the right thing and the rest of us to listen.

If they were to approach teams individually before the season saying they need to change their roster that is going to cause a lot of frustration from that manager who built their team the whole off-season. That is why it is good to talk about what Bryan and Hannes considered to be offensive players and what the requirements should be right now in November and not February. Right now I think the rule is too vague and that is why I originally asked my question.


If they decided to put the 12 offensive players rule into effect to make sure we had competitive matches throughout the year and to prevent tanking, having minor league players on the MLB roster is the same thing as having the spot empty. Both aren't going to provide any ABs.

Also if minor league players are put on the MLB roster does that mean their contract starts earlier even though it hasn't in real life? You know what I mean?

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Actually, minor league players make a salary in real life and they also get signing bonuses.

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Why should the rule change now in "November" because you brought up a question? Again, the rule was stated back on October 11 and then updated the next day and yet you say nothing for four weeks give or take a few days. I said this last year and I'll say it again now, let people play their team and you play yours. Besides, why are you so concerned with how other people play? BTW, if you didn't notice the Commish gave a thumbs up on the initial thread. I can only assume he agrees with the posted rule.

I didn't see you complain last year when teams failed to reach the min IP requirement. And those teams didn't carry enough P's to cover the IP limit. So why are you voicing your concern about hitters this season but not a word about pitchers last season?

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If you remember WAS, a player's contract doesn't actually start until that player reaches the agreed upon limits of AB's or IP. For example a player like Yasmani Tomas (ARI). BTW, that rule was in place when the league was formed.