Winning Bids

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The way we have it now the winning bid is the highest yearly salary. Would it be better to determine the winning bid by value of contract. So a 3 year deal would beat a 1 year deal. I also think it could help salary cap issues. For example;

J Upton went for 1 year at $26M. To beat that you would have to pay $27M each year. If we did total value of contract, you could bid 3 years at $9M each year for a total value of $27M. The tie breaker would be number of years. A $18M total salary of 3 years would beat a $18M total salary of 2 years.

The 3rd choice is a interesting suggestion and it's intriguing. If you bid 1 year at $10M. You can outbid them by doing at least 80% of $10M for 2 years or 60% for 3 years. So a 2 year deal at $8M would beat a 1 year deal at $10M. A 3 year deal at $6M would beat that. If you wanted to beat a 3 year deal at $10M/year with a 2 year deal, you would add 40% of the $10M so you would bid 2 years at $14M/year. For a 1 year deal you would add 80% of the $10M so you would bid 1 year at $18M/year. 

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I don't agree with any of this. Hannes asked what I was proposing to do and I would put it like this. Take Chris Davis this year as an example.

Davis 3yr 20M

I'd put it like this, if you want to go down 1 year to a 2 year deal then the next offer at 2 years needs to be 40% more than the average salary. If you want to go down 2 years to 1 year then it needs to be 80% more

A 2 year offer would be 28M/yr
A 1 year offer would be 36M

Let's say someone makes the 36M 1 year bid, the. We can go as low as 80% of the 36M to up one year or 60% if you want to raise it 2 years.

So if we're looking at adding a year the offer would be 2yr @ 28.8M
Or 3yr @ 21.6M.

These are actually things real life players would consider.

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This way it actually gives teams options on how to spend their money but it also is more realistic in terms of what players would actually accept.

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It be some calculating before you make a bid and to figure out how much you need to bid to outbid the previous bid. Like J Upton he went for 1 year at $26M. To beat that you would have to either bid 1 year at $27M or 2 years at $20,800 or 3 years at $15,600?

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So if I start a bid for 2 years at $10M each year. Would it take the minimum 60% of that for a 3 year deal? So it would take $6M for 3 years to beat it?

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It would be a 1 year change so 2 year 10M to be outbid by adding a year it would be 80%. Raise if 1 year is 80% raise of 2 years is the 60%.

So in that case it would take a 3yr 8M/yr offer to put bid the 2 for 10/yr. or a 1yr 14M if you wanted to go down a year.

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I just think it's most realistic and not too difficult to follow, I was in another league years ago that worked it like this and it worked very well.

I also think options should be penalized 15% so that not every single player gets an option because there is no penalty to it, but that's another subject for another day.

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So to be clear if I bid 3 years at $10M/year and you wanted to outbid be but do a 1 year deal you would have to do 1 year at $18M?

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Correct

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Would love to hear reasons why anyone would oppose my idea besides math is too hard.

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But would a 3 year deal at $10M/year be the same as a 1 year deal at $18/year? So wouldn't we have to add either $100K, $500K or $1M to it?

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The 100K/500K/1M thing would be thrown out the window unless it's outbid by a bid of the same amount of years. As I pointed with Chris Davis if that 3 year deal was made a 1 year deal it would be 36M then if it went back to 3 year the next bid would be no less than 21.6M for 3 years.

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Dec 5, 2015 23:09:08 GMT @mavwar53 said:

Would love to hear reasons why anyone would oppose my idea besides math is too hard.

Why not simply do the overall value of the entire contract?
This way is more simple.

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Simple but primitive. So basically if someone had 15M to spend this year and 2M next year and and someone bid 2 year 8M/year you're saying the owner can't outbid that by offering 1 year 15M.

Doesn't make sense, why would a player basically take 1M for that second year without testing free agency?

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Simple, basic, or primitive it's all the same but everyone understands this.
It's called the total overall value of the bid.

Makes sense to me.