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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2015 23:44:02 GMT
It's dumb, that's what I call it, illogical.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2015 23:47:30 GMT
Here we go. Like always when someone counters your way of thinking you always have to come back bashing someone. You do this all the time Mike.
Why is this?
So to use your example about "real life" contracts I suppose a player I have on my "fantasy team" wouldn't play for 500K.
You see I have two of those players. One is A. LaRoche and he's been playing what 10 years?
BTW, I noticed someone already changed their vote. Your idea only has one vote.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2015 23:49:03 GMT
Good one Stu, let's be cavemen, I get your point.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2015 23:49:37 GMT
I'll say this, if it was Hannes and CHC idea, there wouldn't be a vote.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2015 23:54:10 GMT
My idea was for total value of contract and I started the poll to see what people want. That is why I put your idea in the poll as well. If I wanted to be a jerk I wouldn't have let your suggestion have a chance. If people want to do that option then I'm all for it.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 5, 2015 23:55:19 GMT
Where was the option to change the 5 Mac bid, there is no consistency, some are what you guys want others are put up for vote, I'm done with this. Good luck.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2015 0:00:26 GMT
Some need a immediate change cause there was outstanding bids that could be affected by this. I'm sorry if you are disappointed that people don't agree with your suggestion.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2015 0:05:29 GMT
That's why I said if this new way don't work out we can vote on it next year to see what the majority wants. Then we do put things to a vote people attack and bash each other cause they don't agree and argue publicly. Maybe we shouldn't vote and me and Hannes make the decisions.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2015 0:06:54 GMT
Would love to hear reasons why anyone would oppose my idea besides math is too hard. Mike, with all due respect, if you didn't want to hear someone oppose your idea then you shouldn't have made this comment. I wasn't condescending in my reply to your idea. I simply stated my thought. |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2015 0:17:28 GMT
I agree with Stu for one reason and one alone. We continue to say that we want to mimic the MLB, in real life, a player would prefer to take a longer deal to a 1 year deal. If a player takes one year at 16M over 2 years at 8M he can have a bad year and damage his value for the next year. Let it be the total of the whole contract.
And to the 5 bid max topic, people have abused the system by asking friends to bid for them to make opposition use all their bids and that can only be avoided by allowing as many bids as they can afford. Who cares if you have to bid more?
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Post by Chicago White Sox on Dec 6, 2015 0:53:15 GMT
I like the idea Miami but I honestly think it is too complicated. Managers don't want to sit down and make a bunch of calculations to see what they have to bid. And how do we know if it is more? Then someone else has to do the math to make sure the guy who placed the bid is correct.
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Post by Arizona Diamondbacks on Dec 6, 2015 1:02:57 GMT
I don't agree with any of this. Hannes asked what I was proposing to do and I would put it like this. Take Chris Davis this year as an example. Davis 3yr 20M I'd put it like this, if you want to go down 1 year to a 2 year deal then the next offer at 2 years needs to be 40% more than the average salary. If you want to go down 2 years to 1 year then it needs to be 80% more A 2 year offer would be 28M/yr A 1 year offer would be 36M Let's say someone makes the 36M 1 year bid, the. We can go as low as 80% of the 36M to up one year or 60% if you want to raise it 2 years. So if we're looking at adding a year the offer would be 2yr @ 28.8M Or 3yr @ 21.6M. These are actually things real life players would consider. did u factor in this example my 20% discount , because my winning bid was actually 16m , if someone bid the 80% how would that play in regards to my 20% discount cuz technically 20% dicount is just like saying i paid 80% , that could get confusing trying to factor in their 80% of my 80% which means my 80% is not an advantage anymore at which point i would like to ask for my comp pick back ( JUST KIDDING , LMFAO RIGHT NOW ) |
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2015 1:57:42 GMT
I do like the idea the numbers look good but it makes a risk for errors that could be unnoticed until it's too late. Like on Dec 1st we had auctions for around 20 players. It would be too much time to sit through each bid and see if it's correctly calculated. And then if it's not and later bids are based on the wrong bid then it could be a mess.
I like the total value the best it's simple for management and owners.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Dec 6, 2015 2:27:27 GMT
Would you clarify "total value" of the contract with some examples. I think that will help people understand.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 6, 2015 2:39:58 GMT
If you bid 3 years at $10M/year it would be value of $30M. That would beat a bid of 2 years at $14M/year cause that would be a value of $28M. You take the yearly salary and multiply that by the number of years. If the value is the same the tie breaker would be number of years. .
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