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Post by Kansas City Royals on Aug 14, 2024 20:15:15 GMT
I ain't pushing for these, but I do think they might be good ideas.
1. Much like MLB does, we should stop all adds on September 1. No grabbing reinforcements during the playoffs. If we're striving to be similar to MLB, if they can't do it, we shouldn't.
2. If we agree to freeze adds, then following that, any remaining cap by each team should then be applied to reducing the next season's penalties. This too is similar to how MLB will structure buyouts, signing bonuses and contracts to hit when other things aren't hitting. There are 2 caveats to this. 1. I am not proposing direct cap rollover. If you don't use your cap, you lose it. So if you have $50m left, and 6m in next years penalties, you'd still lose the remaining $44m. 2. What I was really thinking of in proposing something like this was helping teams that are under the cap this year but over the cap next year. So I'd even be fine with a rule that only applied if you are over the cap for the next season. Like saying any remaining cap would be applied to get those teams to $0.00, or at least closer to it, for the next year.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Aug 16, 2024 13:53:27 GMT
1. I thought about before responding for a few days. Still don't know my opinion really. I'm currently rolling david hamilton and nick sogard at SS..sogard left yesterdays game with a tight calf. I have brooks lee on the IL hoping to be back by Sept. Not that I'm capable of getting much better off the wire in September but I'm not that far off from having an absolute zero at SS. The comparison to real life MLB is they have a 40 man roster compared to our 31 plus some potentially eligible milb guys if they essentially still have "2 way status"... MLB i think also has injury rules where if you have a guy go out you can bring in an alternate but can no longer use injured guy for the rest of that current round (not sure on specifics). I'm not really for or against that rule but now that I help with transactions in a bias way I'm pro-less transactions
2. I would be in favor of keeping penalties as is. Currently, we have roughly 342M in available cash between all teams for this season (so we can assume there should be plenty cap next year as well). Teams that aren't using their cap in trades/waivers/picks/etc. There is so much cash already out there that isn't being used. Currently, san diego is the only team over cap for next year and that's by like 6M with only 1 arbitration player . Most teams are significantly over cap (of course arb will lessen that somewhat). He also traded 21M in cash to you and mets so I'm assuming part of those trades were maxing out his team to go for championships
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Post by Arizona Diamondbacks on Aug 16, 2024 23:43:32 GMT
To keep in perspective tho and I will use my team only …. I have 6 open spots on my roster to fill and 7 ARB contracts … that’s 13 spots to fill and 52 million to do it , so basically 4 million per spot …. It’s not likely I will be in on any of the big free agent bidding myself , there are other teams in similar situations so I like the idea of paying off next years penalties to help with funds towards being competitive in auctions.
I do agree with keeping transactions to a minimum going into playoffs tho
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Aug 17, 2024 1:48:15 GMT
To keep in perspective tho and I will use my team only …. I have 6 open spots on my roster to fill and 7 ARB contracts … that’s 13 spots to fill and 52 million to do it , so basically 4 million per spot …. It’s not likely I will be in on any of the big free agent bidding myself , there are other teams in similar situations so I like the idea of paying off next years penalties to help with funds towards being competitive in auctions. I do agree with keeping transactions to a minimum going into playoffs tho Since we already have 340M-ish in available cap (league wide) we can kind've assume there would be more league wide available cap if we forgave penalties next year... I'll use a mediocre player as an example like jeff mcneil...assume he's a free agent in our league next year. If everyone has extra cap and lets say he just gets up to something relatively silly like 20M per year for 3+ years. Say McNeil in 2025 hits like 240 and doesn't provide a reliable batting average which is his main calling card. What's to prevent me from dropping those 2nd and 3rd years @ 20M each knowing I'm not going to have to pay the 10M penalty for it. Even as I had xander bogaerts this year @ 20M, i traded him to get out from under that contract (knowing I have tucker/soto/alonso/etc due raises). If I knew I could drop him for free essentially after this season I prob would've just kept him and dropped him penalty free to pay soto/alonso in 2025 Maybe people will like more players being in free agency year over year period but it seems like it opens the door to give silly contracts and if it doesn't work out we just wash our hands were people can easily dump all their contracts each year and splurge in free agency. I feel like wilmer flores for example had a overpriced contract and then someone moved it in an effort to probably free up money or something (he eventually got dropped). I feel like there would be a lot of wilmer flores type contracts |
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Aug 17, 2024 2:07:49 GMT
maybe a compromise could be each team gets one free (penalty free) drop per season (i think this has been proposed in the past)...That will free up a little cash for auctions, increase free agent pool but I think it would avoid any big exploits.....plus each team is receiving a benefit.
From Royals original post, it sounds like the Padres would be the only beneficiary of any change next season as of now. Dbacks not being over the cap wouldn't receive any penalty forgiveness "So I'd even be fine with a rule that only applied if you are over the cap for the next season."
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Post by Tampa Bay Rays on Aug 17, 2024 2:50:55 GMT
Wow I have McNeil and Bogearts lol… But I took the gamble on them hoping they bounce back to an extent. I also had the salary in future years to be able to somewhat afford those salaries if they struggle.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Aug 17, 2024 2:57:27 GMT
Wow I have McNeil and Bogearts lol… But I took the gamble on them hoping they bounce back to an extent. I also had the salary in future years to be able to somewhat afford those salaries if they struggle. I just picked players that came to mind and used my team as an example You also have mcneil for 10M/15M/15M which I think is fair enough but I'm just projecting if he were to go for 20M-25M because everyone knew they only had to be responsible for the contract for 1 year vs having it for 3 I have luis severino at 11.4M for this year and next with an option. I don't think that is a great price for him based off his performance but I feel pretty confident if I release him he's going to go for more than 11.4 in auction. Then obviously last year when I gave him 3 yrs at 11.4 I thought it was good....now I gotta decide for 2025 if I want severino at 11.4M or move him to free up cash, etc. |
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Post by Tampa Bay Rays on Aug 17, 2024 4:14:51 GMT
Yeah that is what makes this league a challenge and fun because you have to think about what you do today and how it will affect the team the next few years. I agree with a new owner getting a free drop, but not so sure I agree with an established team getting that. I mean it’s not the end of the world either way on that idea.
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Post by Tampa Bay Rays on Aug 17, 2024 4:16:11 GMT
Plus in this league as expensive as pitching can go 11.4m isn’t too bad of a price to gamble on and hope for the best the good thing is it is a short term gamble.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Aug 17, 2024 4:47:15 GMT
Yeah that is what makes this league a challenge and fun because you have to think about what you do today and how it will affect the team the next few years. I agree with a new owner getting a free drop, but not so sure I agree with an established team getting that. I mean it’s not the end of the world either way on that idea. My preference would be no penalty forgiveness and no free drops aside from the two we give new owners. Just trying to throw a compromise out there that should have a smaller impact... Or even just a free drop on even numbered years 2024 2026 2028 Honestly, when royals waiver yelich I knew he could be hurt all year but he could help me if he came back. I kind've wanted him as an asset to have to trade for cash in the offseason depending on juan Soto and Kyle tucker contracts. Claiming him was more about next season than this one cause I'm trying to create options for the money I'll need in 2025. Obviously hiccups could happen after his surgery and he's not good to go in spring training next year and then he essentially loses all his value and I'm stuck with the 9 or 11m annually whatever he makes. But I felt like picking him up was still worth the risk with his long term injury potential knowing I'd be responsible for his contract regardless of his injury status |
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Post by Chicago Cubs on Aug 18, 2024 2:55:59 GMT
I first thought that would be a good idea with the penalties. But I think Oakland is right with teams just throwing big contracts out there knowing there wouldn’t be any long term ratifications from it if you drop them and get the money back.
In my history with other leagues, the more money out there in free agency just means more players are overpriced.
But it could be an idea to let the teams that don’t make the playoffs do that so they can get some extra money to spend and rebuild their teams.
Another idea we could do is do buyouts. You can have a choice when you drop a player to do 50% for the remaining years left or pay the 50% at the time of drop during that season. So if you have a player that is making $20M for 3 years, you can either pay $10M in 2024, 2025, and 2026. Or you can pay $30M in 2024 and be done. Giving your team some flexibility next year if you can afford it now.
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Post by Philadelphia Phillies on Aug 18, 2024 11:27:51 GMT
I don't think transactions should be banned completely in the playoffs, because if things are going really badly for a team and they suddenly have a lot of injured players for a position, they should have the option to make additions so that no spot in the lineup is left empty. But maybe in the playoffs they should only set a certain number of adds per week. I think they should keep it the same with the penalties. If I have signed a large and long contract, I also have to live with the consequences of having to pay for this player for a long time. I think otherwise the contract amounts will go through the roof if you know that you are only responsible for the penalty for 1 year.
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