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Post by Kansas City Royals on Dec 7, 2022 2:51:41 GMT
I don't own Trea Turner or Aaron Judge or Jacob deGrom. Probably never will. But they are prime examples of an issue we're going to face within a couple of years, so we might as well start discussing it and make a plan.
Real life contracts are getting out of control. It's making it difficult to find room for truly high-end players, which is exactly the opposite of what you want as a league. Increasing our cap is definitely not going to fix the issue. So I'm proposing that you get to keep your guys, but we either tier them by their salaries, or use a set percentage of every contract in our league.
For example, Turner just signed for 11 years and 300m. So we could say in our league that we pay 60% (180m) 75% (225m) or whatever percent of real life contracts. Or we can say if a guy signs for 40m a year, we pay 25. 35m is 22, 30 is 20, and so forth. Obviously, the numbers are just examples and up for discussion as well.
I don't want to strip anyone of their players. And I don't want anyone to feel like they need to move on from a star just because they signed a ridiculous real life contract. That said, we still want a competitive league, so just giving everyone more $ won't solve that. We need to find a balance somewhere. Just something I'd like us to look into at some point.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2022 3:07:56 GMT
That is a good suggestion. These contracts can really hold a team down from being competitive down the road if they aren’t smart. We have to pay 30 guys with a $143M hard cap while these teams have a $200M+’budget.
But you see our auctions get crazy too. Ohtani probably will go for $50M for 3+ years. You seen that last year that the top tier guys are getting over $30M deals. Just the difference is it’s only for 3 years.
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Post by Arizona Diamondbacks on Dec 7, 2022 3:11:06 GMT
On the other hand ,these types of contracts this will make it harder to stack superstars , making the talent have to be spread around , nobody can afford to hoard superstars …
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Post by Kansas City Royals on Dec 7, 2022 3:13:10 GMT
Aye. Like you mentioned with Ohtani, our own FA sometimes gets crazier than real life. So giving everyone more $ isn't really the answer. But you always want star players to be desirable. Just thinking we can probably get the best of both worlds if we think about it a bit.
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Post by Kansas City Royals on Dec 7, 2022 3:14:21 GMT
On the other hand ,these types of contracts this will make it harder to stack superstars , making the talent have to be spread around , nobody can afford to hoard superstars … I'm not proposing we do away with a big cap hit for them, just temper it a bit. |
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Post by Kansas City Royals on Dec 7, 2022 3:18:37 GMT
Basically, I'm saying if we want to be a dynasty league, real life contracts are making it harder and harder to retain our own players, and we could probably combat that a bit.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2022 4:03:37 GMT
Basically, I'm saying if we want to be a dynasty league, real life contracts are making it harder and harder to retain our own players, and we could probably combat that a bit. That is why we give incentives to managers to deny these real life contracts and give them QO and give them a discount in auction. Last year, pretty much every big free agent got a QO. That is why they are free agents this year. Judge got a QO so there is only a handful of these real life contracts out there. Sounds like Trea Turner’s contract will be accepted. I’m not sure what to do with Correa myself. Might keep his options for 2 years or decline the last year and try for the discount. Maybe the answer is to make it more appealing to NOT take the real life contract? Maybe a 25% discount? |
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Dec 7, 2022 4:43:57 GMT
I like real life contracts... I still have Josh bell and Michael Brantley and will likely accept both. I accepted Alcantara and Xander too previously.
I could've accepted scherzer real life contract but gave him the qo offer instead and was cool with that
Maybe set a 3 plus year "MAX" contract like however the NBA does their max deals. I'm not on top of nba but I think teams with the player can give an extra year than all the other teams at whatever the max dollar amount is.
Like 35m-40max deal at 3+ years... Altho in most cases the homegrown 20% discount which actually come out lower than 35-40 anyway
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Dec 7, 2022 4:48:09 GMT
Also, I'm a little scared Kyle Tucker and Rafael devers will get monster extensions but I'm assuming this is coming also and trying to keep my team setup in a way that I'll be able to absorb whatever it is they'll get
If not I'll take my chances with a qo and take the discount.
This happened for me with Rendon too, he's making like 32m or something and I wasn't thinking he would be worth that and I took the qo or traded him... Can't remember
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Post by Arizona Diamondbacks on Dec 7, 2022 16:20:51 GMT
Just another thought here , I have spent nearly 35 million on draft picks this year , what’s the difference between guys like me that spend that amount for picks a year and guys that spend 35 to 40 mil on a player as long as they can afford it , I agree with KC , I don’t wanna see any issues that may negatively effect the league , but I don’t wanna see any manager handcuffed if he as managed his team and money properly
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Post by Kansas City Royals on Dec 7, 2022 19:39:26 GMT
I'm not really a "build from within guy", so this is never going to impact me overmuch. But when I see guys expressing relief that they were able to shed a fantasy superstar before they got paid, that's not a good thing. That's all I know. I'm fine with whatever answer we come to, I'd just rather not see a time when stars are untradeable because no one can pay them rather than because they are irreplaceable talents.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 7, 2022 20:53:41 GMT
The only issue with these long-term contracts is when managers leave and the new manager takes over these contracts. That is why we give new owners two free drops. But, I think our owners are creative with their trades. I don't think there is a player that can not be traded in our league. Stanton has been traded multiple times with his big contract. Trout has been traded multiple times as well.
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Post by Tampa Bay Rays on Dec 7, 2022 22:54:01 GMT
The unique thing is all of us in our league value risk differently. Some of us are more aggressive then others when it comes to players that have higher salaries. So it's a juggling act at times like for example since Turner got his huge deal you as a team owner have to hope that you can manage your team to be able to afford that kind of contract. That is also the advantage of this league in keeping teams competitive because if you have three or four of these big contracts you will probably have to be pretty creative to be able to keep your team competitive year in and year out.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 8, 2022 0:11:53 GMT
The unique thing is all of us in our league value risk differently. Some of us are more aggressive than others when it comes to players that have higher salaries. So it's a juggling act at times like for example since Turner got his huge deal you as a team owner have to hope that you can manage your team to be able to afford that kind of contract. That is also the advantage of this league in keeping teams competitive because if you have three or four of these big contracts you will probably have to be pretty creative to be able to keep your team competitive year in and year out. Exactly. Well said. Another thing to manage are these arbitration contracts. Some of these players get up there in their 5th and 6th year. I do like the mix of real life and league salaries that we have. Can’t believe pitchers and catchers auctions will open up in 3 weeks. |
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