Free Agent Bidding

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Like fantasy baseball does in standard or even most custom leagues, you put in a waiver request and wait 2 days to see if you get them based on waiver priority. Fair, simple, and salaries stay the same as MLB.

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Nov 12, 2014 16:54:46 GMT @gepetto69 said:

My issue is with the undrafted MLB FA's. I truly believe if you want a player during the current draft or after the draft then you must pay that player's full contract salary. If you want a particular player then select, claim, or p/u the player and pay his full amount. There should be no bidding at all when it comes to undrafted MLB players.

I see flaws with both sides of this poll about blind and public bidding and that's why I have not voted on it. As for me, and I'm only speaking for myself here, I really don't see a logical argument concerning this issue when it comes down to MLB undrafted players.

This is punishing people who draft wisely with their money (as I did) according to the rules that have been laid out since the very beginning of the draft. I fear we are opening a really big can of worms here by allowing people to debate the merits of rules that affect drafting behavior and were established when the draft started.

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I believe the drafting of Scherzer and then dropping him is completely different than bidding on guys who were not drafted at all.

Oh sure you will say it's the same idea but if it was then why not select someone like Pujols, Hamels, Verlander, and any other high priced available player and then drop that player for bidding purposes??

I realize there are a lot of discussions going on at the moment but maybe we should bring the conversation back to where it started.

[Colorado Rockies]

Waiver wire?! maybe?!

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Nov 12, 2014 20:43:41 GMT @arendty said:

I think waivers is a terrible idea.

May I please ask why you think it is a terrible idea. Please be specific. Because there have already been a number of managers who said they agree with my idea and if you can convince me there are holes, I will agree with you.

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Another reason that I believe this is a bad idea is that some people will draft over budget with full intention of dropping and bidding on those players to get them cheaper, which is circumventing the entire system... Don't ya think?

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One thing I have seen about polls within leagues, if half the league is split on an issue then maybe the issue should not be implemented. This current poll looks like it's pretty even so why make a change.

[Colorado Rockies]

No need to argue here people. 
As this issue seems to get out of hand I decided to post 4 options. 
No. 4 is my idea on how to handle this. I think that it is a solid approach. 
I will talk this over with Bryan and we will post a decision on this tomorrow. 

1. We bid on international free agents only. All the other contracts of already MLB players remain legit. If you want to pick up Hamels, you will have to pay big time.
Pro: It is fun and we only have about 10-15 people to bid on, which is easy to handle.
Con: People might gamble on one player. Lose the bid and leave the league. Own experience here.

2. We have no auction at all. Do not allow any international free agents to be drafted or picked up until next years new player draft.
Pro: No auction. No drama and very easy to handle.
Con: Players like Tomas would be not eligible for the whole 2015 season and can be drafted in the new player draft in October 2015.

3. All undrafted Free Agents (or Free Agents whose new contract got declined) and international Free Agents are part of an auction.
Pro: Would be interesting, you could get good deals.
Con: A lot, I mean a lot of work to figure out the whole list of players that we bid on. Could take weeks to get through all FA. If
we auction 40 players it could become a mess quickly.

4. My idea:
Define the big FA and big international FA and include big Contract guys (e.g. Pujols and others).
List if 20-25 players max.
Auction them of by the procedure posted by me:
- Blind bidding to me
- I will post highest bid every hour with out the team who put the bid in
- 6h time slots for one player
- 3 players at the time
All those other small fish FA (e.g. Joba Chamberlain or John Nobody) can be picked up with their MLB contracts.
This way we have the big contracts also up for auction and the big international FAs too.
I think this solution is fair for anyone. 

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How is it the best part? I thought we wanted it to be close to real as possible. Make salaries less than they are isn't real. The point is to spend wisely not wait and bid the price to affordable later. And this hostility is what I was talking about. I merely suggested a different point of view and feel like I'm an outcast for wanting to be a part of making this OUR league, not a different one we have been in before.

[Chicago White Sox]

I personally like option 3 the best but with modifications. I don't think there should a set of players that are all posted at once. I feel like there should be a subforum and if there is a FA someone wants they post a thread with an opening bid then a bid has to stand for 12-24 hours (whatever is determined) and the player is rewarded. We can start this in February and then it will end a week or two before the season begins.

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I understand and I do not believe any of this is a argument just teams expressing their thoughts and tying to make the league better. Which is a good thing. I do not like the idea of having a list of eligible players that have big contracts to go to auction just cause they are too expensive. Case in point, I drafted Kershaw. He would of been on that list. I would say all players that are not drafted in this draft be eligible to be bidded on in some way.

There has to be a auction cause like Cardinals said teams are saving their money cause that's their strategy. They should be awarded cause they can afford to sign players.

For teams going over the budget in the draft the only players they can drop without penalty is the players that didn't have a contract during the draft. I can't just be $5M over the budget and go drop my last 5 picks to go sign a big player.

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You also shouldn't be allowed to bid on who you drop to show that you aren't just drafting with the intention to drop and get a better salary.

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Ultimately, I will follow what is chosen. But we need clearly defined rules that we all agree to follow. Also, designated contract lengths and allowing winner option to retain after said contract expires, but at real contract money. Just my thoughts

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Option #3 looks rational. Hannes mentions that it could take long because we would have to figure out the whole list of players, but I don't think it's necessary to have a comprehensive list ahead of time. People could start threads for eligible players that they are interested in bidding on, and they can be taken down if someone finds that those players are ineligible. Therefore if there is a random FA nobody cares about, he doesn't have to be accounted for right now. Honestly, I don't think people will be bidding on a large number of players given that we will already have picked 900 players to that point and people want to avoid cap penalties. I would be surprised if there are more than 60 players that get bid on.

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I am just going to stop making suggestions because nothing I suggest can possibly be right.