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Post by San Diego Padres on Jun 8, 2019 21:59:26 GMT
With this idea we could chat on how we would like to handle picked up real life extensions since the owner in this league is making a specific decision to accept that real life deal. With the way MLB free agency and contracts are going now, we may not see too many of the truly insane deals moving forward. Some bad deals will be struck, for sure, but given owners have a 20% discount to apply to any player they send to free agency here they should be able to mitigate the affects of a big signing due to the contract limits (4 years) we have here Years down the road...going back to my rendon deal. Lets say the Nats offer him a cano contract, i accept, rendon has like 10 yrs @ 30M per (hypothetical). Rendon becomes injury prone and worse than roughned odor almost immediately. I hang out for 2 years and this contract handcuffs me. So i suck and quit, next owner inherits that bad contract, he didn't make the decision to accept horrible contract but he now has it. New owners getting 2 free drops, is that a set in stone policy now or I was just fortunate? Probably should be something for new owners vs owners that don't participate very well for a season or two, don't make any upgrades and then bounce out or are asked kindly to leave. I do feel, as long as I accept Rendons contract (whatever it is), then it should be my problem as long as I'm in the league for better or worse I believe we have always allowed new owners those cuts, so it would not handicap them moving forward unless they elected not to use them on Rendon. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 8, 2019 23:07:54 GMT
With this idea we could chat on how we would like to handle picked up real life extensions since the owner in this league is making a specific decision to accept that real life deal. With the way MLB free agency and contracts are going now, we may not see too many of the truly insane deals moving forward. Some bad deals will be struck, for sure, but given owners have a 20% discount to apply to any player they send to free agency here they should be able to mitigate the affects of a big signing due to the contract limits (4 years) we have here Years down the road...going back to my rendon deal. Lets say the Nats offer him a cano contract, i accept, rendon has like 10 yrs @ 30M per (hypothetical). Rendon becomes injury prone and worse than roughned odor almost immediately. I hang out for 2 years and this contract handcuffs me. So i suck and quit, next owner inherits that bad contract, he didn't make the decision to accept horrible contract but he now has it. New owners getting 2 free drops, is that a set in stone policy now or I was just fortunate? Probably should be something for new owners vs owners that don't participate very well for a season or two, don't make any upgrades and then bounce out or are asked kindly to leave. I do feel, as long as I accept Rendons contract (whatever it is), then it should be my problem as long as I'm in the league for better or worse I think the whole issue is your last sentence. It would be your problem, but so many owners quit when their cap becomes a problem, and then it becomes the league's problem. Guys run their team into the ground then quit and everyone has to find someone willing to put up with the mess they left and generally give up tons of concessions for anyone to take the team. Or risk contraction. It's not fun. Anything that results in more contiguous and stable ownership is what we're going for. I have no real opinions on the actual solution, but I do hate the run the team into the ground and then quit MO. So if adjusting the buyout rules somehow fixes that, I'll be fine with it. |
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 0:59:25 GMT
In the past when taking over a bad team I have no problem whatsoever about cutting excess fat. Now if I get a free drop then so be it, it only helps me out. I simply like the idea of any of our teams being allowed to drop a contract they no longer want no matter who signed the contract (a previous owner) or one the current owner signed. My thinking is each team "might" have a contract they would like to dump so they can move on from it. And like someone said earlier on,the FA pool would increase a bit.
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Post by Honorary Member on Jun 9, 2019 1:04:13 GMT
I have been in this league since inception, and I truly enjoy spending time here competing. We have had a very solid, organized, and dedicated group. I for one, won't be someone to sabotage and quit. I love the competition here.
Let's figure this out, do a clean sweep of the bad contracts, and move on.
I have a few contracts that I regret, but I have managed my team to still have flexibility. I won't be asking for any relief.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 9, 2019 1:17:49 GMT
I have been in this league since inception, and I truly enjoy spending time here competing. We have had a very solid, organized, and dedicated group. I for one, won't be someone to sabotage and quit. I love the competition here. Let's figure this out, do a clean sweep of the bad contracts, and move on. I have a few contracts that I regret, but I have managed my team to still have flexibility. I won't be asking for any relief. It's easier said when you trade away Tulo and his bad contract and receive C. Sale in return. You're still reaping those benefits years later. |
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Post by Honorary Member on Jun 9, 2019 1:26:28 GMT
Mr. Met:. I honestly hope that was a joke.
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Post by Arizona Diamondbacks on Jun 9, 2019 2:42:57 GMT
The idea of having to carry a bad contract is what is supposed to detour the signing in the 1st place , if we can sign who ever for however long for however much what’s to stop more bad contracts from happening , sign ur guys but buyer beware , u ink em u keep him or pay the penalty
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Post by Deleted on Jun 10, 2019 2:38:18 GMT
The only bad thing is letting teams have a free drop or something along those lines it makes them gamble more knowing that they don’t have to live with that mistake a year from now. They can decide to keep Rendon at $30M a year until they can’t afford to keep him and then drop him for free a couple years later.
I do like the 50% and 25% thing. On a $30M contract you only pay $7.5M for the next 3 years.
The insurance thing would be interesting but there are teams that don’t have keep their picks. So would they just not be able to “purchase” the insurance?
I’m just trying to find creative ways to keep managers from getting bored while keeping the league’s integrity. I would like to get the Astros’ opinion on this since he is the one that has Cano and Cabrera. LOL.
Those players were drafted at the beginning and he received them via trade when he was going for it. So it was his gamble that he lost getting those players. Same for the people that received Kershaw, Trout, Posey, and more.
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Post by Honorary Member on Jun 18, 2019 0:19:00 GMT
OK, I agree, one time deal, 25% on any contract, in a separate auction, with no team getting a 20% discount on the player they give up. Does that sound fair to everyone?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 18, 2019 5:23:38 GMT
We aren’t deciding now these are just suggestions on what we can do to make the league better.
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Post by Boston Red Sox on Jun 18, 2019 12:41:08 GMT
Obviously this will be hashed out in the off season, but for my opinion...I think Arizona hit it on the head..."sign ur guys but buyer beware , u ink em u keep him or pay the penalty." Pay the penalty and maybe you can win them back in auction.
I am for the Cubs suggestion "an owner that took over a team with a bad contract that never had the opportunity to get the free drops that we now give new owners." We should "grandfather" that benefit to them. Specifically who would that be?
But as for the rest...."Managers build their teams the way they want and they have to live with their choices they make for their team."
If they screw up and get bored because they aren't winning and leave in a huff... I don't want those kind of managers in our league.
Just my opinion of course. My Jed Lowrie contract is looking mighty lame.
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Post by Oakland Athletics on Jun 18, 2019 13:53:22 GMT
Obviously this will be hashed out in the off season, but for my opinion...I think Arizona hit it on the head..."sign ur guys but buyer beware , u ink em u keep him or pay the penalty." Pay the penalty and maybe you can win them back in auction. I am for the Cubs suggestion "an owner that took over a team with a bad contract that never had the opportunity to get the free drops that we now give new owners." We should "grandfather" that benefit to them. Specifically who would that be? But as for the rest...."Managers build their teams the way they want and they have to live with their choices they make for their team." If they screw up and get bored because they aren't winning and leave in a huff... I don't want those kind of managers in our league. Just my opinion of course. My Jed Lowrie contract is looking mighty lame. I agree with this |
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Post by Miami Marlins on Jun 19, 2019 14:14:13 GMT
Obviously this will be hashed out in the off season, but for my opinion...I think Arizona hit it on the head..."sign ur guys but buyer beware , u ink em u keep him or pay the penalty." Pay the penalty and maybe you can win them back in auction. I am for the Cubs suggestion "an owner that took over a team with a bad contract that never had the opportunity to get the free drops that we now give new owners." We should "grandfather" that benefit to them. Specifically who would that be? But as for the rest...."Managers build their teams the way they want and they have to live with their choices they make for their team." If they screw up and get bored because they aren't winning and leave in a huff... I don't want those kind of managers in our league. Just my opinion of course. My Jed Lowrie contract is looking mighty lame. I agree with this i do as well |
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